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Post by Ken (ANA) on Jul 3, 2015 10:00:24 GMT -5
Hi all, Now that Capgeek is gone, we should choose which site we will use as our official reference for the cap hit for the league. Fantrax has cap hit information included in it, but in our experience, it is not always accurate so its always better to use another, more accurate source for our league. In the past few months, we had suggestions from other GMs on on salary cap sites they liked. They all seemed acceptable to me so I think we'll just put it to a vote and the majority will win. Here are the links to each site on the polls so you can check it out: www.generalfanager.com/war-on-ice.com/www.capfriendly.com/EDIT: Enough people have unofficially voted for hockeyscap by posting that including it as an option was warranted. Unfortunately, I'm not able to edit the original poll to include hockeyscap so I made a new poll. I encourage all to check out those sites and vote for which one you'd prefer. www.hockeyscap.com/Thanks guys!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 10:07:36 GMT -5
Someone mentioned it earlier bu General Fanager was up to date with the recent signings very quickly. I vote General Fanager.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 10:12:21 GMT -5
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Post by Ken (ANA) on Jul 3, 2015 10:33:28 GMT -5
How's sportrac for contract updates? I've heard of it but never used it myself. Sportrac has a lot of information from various other sports but the other sites are solely dedicated to the NHL.
My favourite feature on General Fanager is the "Recent signings" information on the home screen. If you know a player got signed to a new contract, you don't have navigate to his team/page every time to see if it got updated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 10:42:45 GMT -5
They have a Transactions area for signings/trades, check it out. It's a pretty decent site. NHL stuff has its own homepage, so the other sports don't get in the way.
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Post by Ken (ANA) on Jul 3, 2015 10:55:11 GMT -5
I used Andrew Desjardin's contract as a test. He was signed just this morning.
The only sites, as at the time of this post, that has this updated is General Fanager and Capfriendly. Not sure who did it first but damn, that's fast. Both indicate that the contract information is not confirmed or there's information missing though.
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Post by mtlgm on Jul 3, 2015 11:07:13 GMT -5
Layout wise I like capfriendly better to be honest both have their uses. The numbers differ sometimes when nothing official is in as I think when an ELC is signed generalfanager will put in the maximum allowed until it's official whereas capfriendly seems to always have a lower number. Different information source?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 14:18:34 GMT -5
Having never been to any of the sites before for cap purposes (I was using NHL Numbers but it's meh) - Cap Friendly is far superior in terms of layout and usability in my opinion. That will likely get my vote as long as they're good at updating info.
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Post by burnsy8801 on Jul 3, 2015 14:59:18 GMT -5
Generalfanager for me
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Post by burnsy8801 on Jul 3, 2015 14:59:58 GMT -5
But to be fair I haven't checked out the other two so it is bias.
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Jul 3, 2015 18:25:37 GMT -5
hockeyscap.com www.hockeyscap.com/has the closest layout to capgeek, is easy to use and nicely formatted. any chance it can be added to the options? the biggest reason I prefer hockeyscap is the example of Jason Demers. San Jose retained part of his salary. generalfanger and hockeyscap both show his cap hit as $2,210,000 and that is the cap hit for Dallas but in hockeyscap they have a legend explaining the various options that players have in their contract (no trade, entry level, no move) but in particular what will help us is rs = retained salary. this way upon looking, GMs know that they should click on the players name to figure out what their actual NHL cap hit is. generalfanger you wouldn't know to click unless you knew that player had that particular situation.
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Post by uofmehockey on Jul 4, 2015 9:52:44 GMT -5
hockeyscap.com www.hockeyscap.com/has the closest layout to capgeek, is easy to use and nicely formatted. any chance it can be added to the options? This is the one for me.
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Post by PHI GM on Jul 4, 2015 10:18:17 GMT -5
I like hockeyscap as well.
I do have a question though. Are we using AAV or cap hit? I always thought they were the same thing but different sites have different numbers for guys. Like Jagr. On NHLNumbers his performance bonus is figured into his cap number ($5.4M), but on hockeyscap it is not. It is listed as AAV, not cap hit ($3.5M). So two (I assume respectable) sites have the same guy with different cap hit numbers.
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Jul 4, 2015 10:30:05 GMT -5
well looking on fantrax, Jagr is listed at 3.5, which is his hockeyscap caphit, we should use caphit as that is what fantrax uses, unless we want to go through and edit (potentially) hundreds of salaries manually.
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Post by mtlgm on Jul 4, 2015 10:47:56 GMT -5
well looking on fantrax, Jagr is listed at 3.5, which is his hockeyscap caphit, we should use caphit as that is what fantrax uses, unless we want to go through and edit (potentially) hundreds of salaries manually. AAV is completely different from Cap Hit. In Jagr's case his cape hit is 3.5 and his AAV goes up to 5.3 because of performance bonuses. He's on a one year deal so AAV is 5.3 Some contracts of longer than 1 year will have different values for each year. Making one up as an example so as to not have to go and search one out. Yvan Cournoyer signs a 2 year deal with the Montreal Canadiens. In year one he gets 2.0M and in year two he gets 3.0M. Assuming he has no bonuses his AAV is 3.0 + 2.0 dided by two so 2.5. Also while a players salary may vary from year to year on a long term contract their cap hit more often than not stays the same.
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