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Post by Oilers GM on Apr 5, 2017 10:26:13 GMT -5
Can we get a few IR+? It would be nice to be able to move players with a Fantrax Red Flag to the IR.
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Post by johnnybower (Det GM) on Apr 5, 2017 14:04:06 GMT -5
I've had 2 guys "out for the season" for the past month and still can't put them on the IR. I think it has something to do with how their RL teams have them categorized but it sucks all the same. Grrrr....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 17:46:18 GMT -5
This was an issue last year. We had a big discussion about it on the Fantrax chat. After the trade deadline, there is no reason for a RL team to put a player on IR.
I started a thread this summer to put it to a vote, how we could improve IR slots post-deadline. Did not get a response.
Maybe for next year we can get something. I remember last year I was fighting for the championship and I had 5 reserves who were injured but not on IR, and young guys like Nylander, Dano, etc in my minors producing but no spots on my roster to put them. So I had to drop guys like Dwight King to make it work.
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Apr 5, 2017 18:44:18 GMT -5
I'd suggest it has to be an Admin decision if it is not a red flag with a white cross. fantrax will put a red flag next to a player who has the flu.
Looking at Oilers roster, all 3 IR spots are empy but the 4 players with red flags are all day to day with lower body injuries.
Of the 3 skaters, only 1 player has missed a game (Prince) and he is a marginal player(right now, this year) who might have been a healthy scratch anyway. Montoya is the back-up Goaltender in Montreal and while he has been listed as having a lower body injury for the past 1-2 weeks there is no telling how bad it is as to whether it has hampered any playing time or if he would have gotten a start if he was fully healthy.
So these instances, imo, wouldn't be eligible for our IR. A player like Anthony Mantha who broke his hand and is out 4-6 weeks but Detroit hasn't bothered to put him on IR -- that is an instance where I would say we c an make an exception.
If you click on Mantha's fantrax profile it says (Out Indefinitely) and if you click on Blake Comeau's profile it says (Day-to-Day) maybe that can be how we decide?
GMs have had to make tough decisions when it comes to competing. A player like Prince is frustrating in they have too much potential to just cut but are hurting our team currently. IMO that is a challenge each fantasy GM is going to have to face.
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Post by johnnybower (Det GM) on Apr 6, 2017 12:47:56 GMT -5
I'm in the playoff hunt and have both Ryan Murray (broken hand - out indefinitely) and Shawn Matthias ("season-ending surgery") who have been like that for at least a month. I have minor-leaguers who are producing but quite often I cannot field a complete roster because Murray and Matthias are taking up spots.
I've also had guys who are sick or day-to-day and I get that there's not much we can do with those guys.
I agree with zaph that perhaps the admins need to consider whether or not to allow movement to the IR, without the Fantrax IR flag, in certain circumstances.
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Apr 6, 2017 16:29:57 GMT -5
If that is even an option. it all depends on the league settings.
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Post by KingsGM on Apr 6, 2017 21:02:08 GMT -5
I agree with above. Something needs to be done about this as it also impacted me last year and it gets really frustrating.
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Apr 6, 2017 21:12:25 GMT -5
It impacts every GM every year. There may not be anything to be done about it, so I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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Post by mtlgm on Apr 7, 2017 10:19:52 GMT -5
After the trade deadline you rarely see a team place a player on IR when they are injured as roster restrictions in the NHL are for all intents and purposes lifted at that time. With emergency callups and then regular callups there is no need really for a player to be placed on IR even if said player is out for the season. Unless admin changes the settings in relation to injured players then there is nothing you can do with said players.
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Post by magicstew on Apr 8, 2017 11:50:14 GMT -5
Do they have a IR+ option on Fantrax? If they do maybe we can look at implementing? Have option for admins to do. Maybe if you put someone on IR+ then you cant use them for the rest of the regular season - might stop abuse. Just a thought as it is frustrating especially when you are battling for position. I have Hanonic out for season - broken wrist. Who has Taveras?
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Post by johnnybower (Det GM) on Apr 8, 2017 15:08:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure that Fantrax would allow us to put anyone on IR without the Fantrax-generated IR flag.
Here's a suggestion for consideration: We create a thread on this site entitled "Non-IR Eligible Injuries" or something similar, whatever everybody likes. After the trade deadline, any player who suffers any kind of long-term injury (we can define that later) can be named in the thread and removed from your Fantrax roster back into the pool. Nobody named in the thread can be claimed/signed except by the GM who placed him there unless the player is officially released in the normal waiver thread or traded. That way we can free up roster spaces occupied by guys who are not playing for extended periods of time.
All the above is is a framework for an idea. It probably has some holes I haven't thought of. If it sucks, that's ok too. Just trying to think of a way to maintain the best possible rosters when Fantrax limitations won't let us.
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Apr 8, 2017 17:57:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure that Fantrax would allow us to put anyone on IR without the Fantrax-generated IR flag. Here's a suggestion for consideration: We create a thread on this site entitled "Non-IR Eligible Injuries" or something similar, whatever everybody likes. After the trade deadline, any player who suffers any kind of long-term injury (we can define that later) can be named in the thread and removed from your Fantrax roster back into the pool. Nobody named in the thread can be claimed/signed except by the GM who placed him there unless the player is officially released in the normal waiver thread or traded. That way we can free up roster spaces occupied by guys who are not playing for extended periods of time. not a fan of this and wouldn't advocate it. Injuries happen and they force GM's to make tough choices. 1 solution I could get behind would be giving each team 5 extra bench spots after the NHL trade deadline (if it is a possibility in fantrax) I do know putting a player who is not listed on fantrax IR onto our team IR doesn't work, I tested it and it gives your team an illegal roster and so you wouldn't accumulate points with an illegal roster. part of the reason Richard kept the rosters small was to force GM's to make the tough choices and trim the fat if they want to compete to win, even if it means losing a potential asset down the road.
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Post by johnnybower (Det GM) on Apr 8, 2017 19:17:02 GMT -5
Yes and no. It's like the rules change at the trade deadline. I know that's not what really happens, but in our league that's the result. Things that would happen in RL before the deadline no longer do.
I also thought about expanding the bench after the deadline but I'm like you in that I don't know if that is possible in Fantrax.
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Post by Oilers GM on Apr 12, 2017 14:03:57 GMT -5
In my other Fantrax league you can move Red Flags to IR.
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Apr 12, 2017 18:37:53 GMT -5
In my other Fantrax league you can move Red Flags to IR. yes, but not every red flag belongs on the IR in this league.
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