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Post by Ken (ANA) on May 6, 2015 10:07:23 GMT -5
Hey guys, Since Capgeek has ceased operations a few months ago, I think we need a new tracker site to base our salaries off of. We've previously referenced Capgeek as our official site for player salaries since Fantrax is not always accurate. I've found 2 so far, one recently posted on the Dobber website: www.generalfanager.com/nhlnumbers.com/General Fanager is new, but seems the most promising so far. Easy to read and has lots of info. I was most impressed that the site shows the cap hit of the PLAYER, not the cap hit to the team which aligns with our rules. The separate section for retained salary for the team. If anyone has a better site, let me know. But I'm favouring General Fanager right now.
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Post by njdevils on May 6, 2015 10:37:17 GMT -5
Hey guys, Since Capgeek has ceased operations a few months ago, I think we need a new tracker site to base our salaries off of. We've previously referenced Capgeek as our official site for player salaries since Fantrax is not always accurate. I've found 2 so far, one recently posted on the Dobber website: www.generalfanager.com/nhlnumbers.com/General Fanager is new, but seems the most promising so far. Easy to read and has lots of info. I was most impressed that the site shows the cap hit of the PLAYER, not the cap hit to the team which aligns with our rules. The separate section for retained salary for the team. If anyone has a better site, let me know. But I'm favouring General Fanager right now. War on Ice started a project to recreate Capgeek and last time I looked they were coming along quite well.
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Post by Ken (ANA) on May 6, 2015 11:07:34 GMT -5
Hey guys, Since Capgeek has ceased operations a few months ago, I think we need a new tracker site to base our salaries off of. We've previously referenced Capgeek as our official site for player salaries since Fantrax is not always accurate. I've found 2 so far, one recently posted on the Dobber website: www.generalfanager.com/nhlnumbers.com/General Fanager is new, but seems the most promising so far. Easy to read and has lots of info. I was most impressed that the site shows the cap hit of the PLAYER, not the cap hit to the team which aligns with our rules. The separate section for retained salary for the team. If anyone has a better site, let me know. But I'm favouring General Fanager right now. War on Ice started a project to recreate Capgeek and last time I looked they were coming along quite well. If their cap information turns out anything like the advanced stats information they currently have now, they'll be very promising as well. Thanks for the heads up! I'll keep an eye on War on Ice and see how it plays out
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Post by mtlgm on Jul 3, 2015 6:22:16 GMT -5
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Post by Ken (ANA) on Jul 3, 2015 9:44:04 GMT -5
LOL, I love how they have coaches salaries.
How was this site for FA signings? I was using General Fanager and that site was ridiculously prompt with updates.
I think war on ice has been suggested and also works well too. I think we'll probably just put it to as vote and that will be this leagues official cap tracker site
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Post by mtlgm on Jul 3, 2015 10:07:49 GMT -5
LOL, I love how they have coaches salaries. How was this site for FA signings? I was using General Fanager and that site was ridiculously prompt with updates. I think war on ice has been suggested and also works well too. I think we'll probably just put it to as vote and that will be this leagues official cap tracker site CapFriendly has been pretty good for FA signings although I haven't checked how many people are involved there as they slowed down a bit with generalFanager being a little faster. Numbers vary a little until confirmed from site to site sometimes. I actually like the layout of capfreindly a little better as with one click you can go from cap to salary. With Generalfanager cap is shown(better for us) but if you want salary you have to click on an individual player unless I missed something and then you see only that player and not the whole team to compare from.
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Post by Ken (ANA) on Jul 3, 2015 10:20:33 GMT -5
LOL, I love how they have coaches salaries. How was this site for FA signings? I was using General Fanager and that site was ridiculously prompt with updates. I think war on ice has been suggested and also works well too. I think we'll probably just put it to as vote and that will be this leagues official cap tracker site CapFriendly has been pretty good for FA signings although I haven't checked how many people are involved there as they slowed down a bit with generalFanager being a little faster. Numbers vary a little until confirmed from site to site sometimes. I actually like the layout of capfreindly a little better as with one click you can go from cap to salary. With Generalfanager cap is shown(better for us) but if you want salary you have to click on an individual player unless I missed something and then you see only that player and not the whole team to compare from. Ok, I completely missed the cap to salary function the first time. That's a pretty awesome function. Is there a way in capfriendly to figure the cap hit for the player/contract? Not the cap hit to the team? For example (this was the exact scenario it arose from), Versteeg's cap hit is $4.4M based on his contract. The Panthers retained half his salary so the cap hit to the Blackhawks is $2.2M (which shows on capfriendly). We ruled that the cap hit on the contract ($4.4M) would be the cap hit we use here. We can find that on general fanager by clicking on the player. Just curious. When i click on the player's name on capfriendly, I get take to his NHL.com page.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 10:34:05 GMT -5
Hey, I like Versteeg's 2.2M salary better!
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Post by mtlgm on Jul 3, 2015 10:57:44 GMT -5
CapFriendly has been pretty good for FA signings although I haven't checked how many people are involved there as they slowed down a bit with generalFanager being a little faster. Numbers vary a little until confirmed from site to site sometimes. I actually like the layout of capfreindly a little better as with one click you can go from cap to salary. With Generalfanager cap is shown(better for us) but if you want salary you have to click on an individual player unless I missed something and then you see only that player and not the whole team to compare from. Ok, I completely missed the cap to salary function the first time. That's a pretty awesome function. Is there a way in capfriendly to figure the cap hit for the player/contract? Not the cap hit to the team? For example (this was the exact scenario it arose from), Versteeg's cap hit is $4.4M based on his contract. The Panthers retained half his salary so the cap hit to the Blackhawks is $2.2M (which shows on capfriendly). We ruled that the cap hit on the contract ($4.4M) would be the cap hit we use here. We can find that on general fanager by clicking on the player. Just curious. When i click on the player's name on capfriendly, I get take to his NHL.com page. Ah, Versteeg, just talking about that in another league. In that respect general fanager does it better than capfriendly in that in generalfanager when you click on Versteeg you do see his full cap hit to the left. Both sites will show players with retained salaries after the goaltenders followed by anyone on buyouts. By my count there are 12 players with retained salary by other teams, may a couple more from recent deals(Yandle, Lucic,Ruutu, Jay Harrison(lol), Max Talbot,Versteeg, Grossman,Demers, gagner,Kessel, Gunnarsson, and Luongo. In the interest in accuracy their full cap hit should be employed. Would help me if i have to trade for one of them . Yeah that is a little odd about linking to the nhl.com page. They must have had to get approval for that. I like the layout though in cap friendly a little more-whoe team without having to click away from the page really and no back clicking to get to another team, just click the team list and pick one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 11:03:31 GMT -5
Since we can't really share a player's salary between teams here like the NHL, I guess I'm stuck with the full 4.4M. But Fantrax needs to be updated; a lot of the salary cap hits they use are wrong.
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Post by mtlgm on Jul 3, 2015 11:15:38 GMT -5
Since we can't really share a player's salary between teams here like the NHL, I guess I'm stuck with the full 4.4M. But Fantrax needs to be updated; a lot of the salary cap hits they use are wrong. I do it manually in a league I'm in. Not sure where Fantrax pulls information or if it's human error but the gave Richard Nedomlel a 6M salary last year. Doing it manually is a big a** job but I'm a stickler for detail so I do it. One question I don't know is Fantrax apparently generates salaries at certain times of the year. Is this true or do Commish's, normally select the salary generator in fantrax and run it for each team. And can it be blocked from fantrax doing it. What you won't see change typically and maybe it's just a player in the minors but if someone in the minors has a cap hit of say 1M for 2014-15 and is a UFA for 2015-16 but there is absolutely no news for that player the 1M cap hit stays there as if it still exists. It won't be removed, which it should be. Leads me to believe that fantrax is run by the Borg and not humans.
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Jul 3, 2015 12:54:38 GMT -5
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Jul 3, 2015 13:01:14 GMT -5
Since we can't really share a player's salary between teams here like the NHL, I guess I'm stuck with the full 4.4M. But Fantrax needs to be updated; a lot of the salary cap hits they use are wrong. typically fantrax updates the salaries closer to the season (I think) and if there is any discrepancy we go through and fix it manually on a case by case basis. so if you see something listed wrong on your team, alert an admin and we can fix it for you.
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