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Post by PHI GM on Apr 9, 2012 12:34:44 GMT -5
It seems as though everyone agrees that the regular season champ is the bigger deal. And I agree. Making our league playoffs during the NHL playoffs is more of a fun thing to do. So then why is the playoff champ pretty much getting the same prize as the regular season champ? It seems like a much lesser accomplishment, yet yields the same reward.
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Apr 9, 2012 14:46:39 GMT -5
It seems as though everyone agrees that the regular season champ is the bigger deal. And I agree. Making our league playoffs during the NHL playoffs is more of a fun thing to do. So then why is the playoff champ pretty much getting the same prize as the regular season champ? It seems like a much lesser accomplishment, yet yields the same reward. winning the stanley cup is no easy task and the strategy to try and do so comes with seperate, but equal sacrifices. the team who wins may have to trade the better players for NHL players on teams they think will go deeper in the play-offs. you need a prize for winning the regular season and the play-offs or who is going to bother trying? the real reward would seem to be the #1 over-all draft pick.
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Post by JetsGM on Apr 9, 2012 20:34:49 GMT -5
agree with Philly on this one. If our playoffs are gonna be based on NHL playoff stats I don't think the "winner" should get a prize at all, certainly not a late 1st/early 2nd. It has nothing to do with assembling a strong team. A GM can win playoffs in that format if they have inferior players who go deeper in the playoffs and can thus accrue more stats than other teams who have stronger overall teams(also can depend on the length of series to impact GP). Do it for fun and bragging rights. No way should the prize for such an arbitrary accomplishment be equal to winning our regular season championship.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2012 22:44:43 GMT -5
I don't think we should even do playoffs but that is just me....We are 30 teams deep and if you look at the rosters any team would be hard pressed to have only playoff material for half or more of their rosters....If your team is made up of players like Mikko Koivu, Rick Nash, RNH, Pacioretty, Kessel, Perry, Fowler, Visnovsky, Goligoski, Duchene, Giordano, Semenov, Tavares, Moulson, Lehtonen.....or some of these guys you would do pretty damn well in the regular season and to manage salaries such as these within the guidelines of the league and then as soon as the playoffs start not have one player playing would kinda suck don't you think? It is hard enough to make trades and talk action with more than 6 or 8 GM's I don't see how this will work for even half the teams in this league? Just my 2 cents....its hard enough to manage a cap, but to manage a cap of potential players on playoff teams is very tough.
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Post by PineRider (SJ) on Apr 12, 2012 18:27:14 GMT -5
imo, the problem with making the playoffs the big prize is that it artificially changes a player's value: Derek Stepan could end up being more valuable than Stamkos... which isn't right.
I agree that winning the regular season should be the end goal of this league. I think that the prize should be better than the 31st overall pick - there should be a pretty good incentive.
Personally, having a playoffs would be a nice-to-have, not a have-to-have. A token prize could be awarded, but for all the reasons mentioned before, I think the playoff prize should be much less than that for winning the regular season.
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Post by ursanator on Apr 13, 2012 3:06:32 GMT -5
Standings/draft order should be based on actual season not playoffs unless playoffs take place during end of regular season with winner of consolation getting 1st pick in entry draft
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Apr 13, 2012 12:18:49 GMT -5
I agree the incentive for winning the regular season should be more than winning the play-offs. IMO, a player who goes further in the play-offs should be and IS more valuable than a player who does nothing in the play-offs. Re: Stamkos, he will get his chance just as Lemieux eventually did, Crosby eventually did, etc.
Not everyone gets to be Gretzky.
In another league I am in the play-off format is this:
a few of those points don't apply to this league.
in that league the rewards are:
Presidents Champ: 1st pick in the 2nd round 2nd pick in the 3rd round
Stanley Cup: 2nd pick in the 2nd round 1st pick in the 3rd round.
draft picks are the best way to compensate the winning team, I agree that winning the PC is more difficult in this league, just as it is in the NHL...but to the players the SC is more important.
With this league moving to head 2 head matches next season the format of the play-offs would be simpler than that other league also.
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Post by zaphod (NYI) on Apr 13, 2012 12:19:07 GMT -5
Standings/draft order should be based on actual season not playoffs unless playoffs take place during end of regular season with winner of consolation getting 1st pick in entry draft agreed. I really never understood why the NHL play-off outcome affects the NHL draft, seems counter-intuitive to me.
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